Curiosity question regarding display entities 1.19.4 feature

Xafnir

This is more a question based on curiosity than anything else.

So with the 1.19.4 Display Entities feature that basically are holograms with interesting properties, i'm curious what the potential for this is as compared to current ways of creating holograms.

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-java-edition-1-19-4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gf5YNRAoTcM

Seems like they can support interactions and hitboxes just fine and they can even play animations upon interactions so i was curious what does everyone think this would be most useful for?

While I was browsing datapacks for ideas i stumbled on this https://www.planetminecraft.com/data-pack/microbuilder/ i haven't tried this yet but based on the creator it's using this tech although question for all devs out there is how laggy would this make clients? They don't tick so the server should be fine but not sure about clients.

If the clients are fine with this and don't get laggy with a big number of them on a screen, another potential I see is having IA custom blocks have a display entity on top of it to perform animations.

I'm just curious if LoneDev had a chance to check this out and what his opinion is on this

LoneDev

I did lot of tests back whe 1.19.4 was still in beta and I confirm that performance is good even with a large number of models.
It stats to get laggy with large amount of blocks.

115 FPS with 0 block entities

29 FPS with 1206 block entities

24 FPS with 1134 item_frame

LoneDev

I plan to completely drop 1.19 support and allow only 1.19.4 since this addition is very needed to make ItemsAdder implement new amazing features.

I just fear admins still want users for some reason to join with legacy 1.19 clients. ViaVersion is a cancer.

Xafnir

Personally I welcome this change since it is:
1. Very cool
2. Looks like it can improve older ways of doing things

LoneDev

yes absolutely
not really, let me explain: old things still had in mind the limit of the game so they used little amount of armorstands. This new method allows creation of NEW logics which implies the usage of lot of entities which weren't possible before.

I have lot of stuff in mind, I just have to find the time to code them 😃

Xafnir

The 1 thing that comes to my mind (if it's even possible) is creating an almost infinite number of new custom blocks as i'm guessing these wouldn't be limited by how many blocks you can have similar to spawner blocks but probably more performant than spawner blocks.

A different thing that comes to mind would be something similar to how modded minecraft has blocks with custom animations upon interaction like a book that opens or other machines with custom animations that would generally have been done using armorstands.

I don't know if i'm right or completely out of my mind but nevertheless i'm excited to see how you'll use these new features in IA 😃

LoneDev

infinite number of new custom blocks

Yes and no.
I can make some tests but the client gets FPS drops to 30FPS at ₁₀₀₀ entities which is not really a good thing.
I don't think implementing custom blocks using this method is a good idea because it would open this feature to newbies who will abuse it and create laggy packs. They will then blame the plugin.

One thing I can do is creating custom crops and I have some ideas to do that without introduce much lag.

JanGyga

LoneDev hey LoneDev

Are in still planing to implement this amazing feature in the plugin … I think will be very beneficial for as right now